unfortunately this is dissapointing, I was hoping for a development along the Xone 4D route...my bad.
It's reminiscent of the SVM-1000.
Good to see Pioneer re-using their technology; here's hoping it'll keep the street price down.
Not that I'll be able to afford one.
@Gobbinboy - but you will at least get to play with one for a while...
I like the Instant FX (Noise rocks!
, the fact that you can switch from Eq to Iso and the effect frequency knobs.
I would not use frequency mix (3 Eqs per channel are enough) and Midi on a touch screen isn't that cool, too.
Design is poor (can you detach that ugly angled front part?) and the price is far away from beeing realistic.
This could have been your chance, Pioneer.
Estimated price ?
reading is an art :-)
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b]The DJM-2000 will be available in June 2010 with a suggested retail price (MSRP) of $2,999.
US price looks likely to be a guestimated street price of perhaps $2599/2699? Sound right?
UK pricing as of Westend DJ (http://www.westenddj.co.uk/Product/PIONEER/DJM2000/) will be £1749. If I were in the market, I'd probably save a bit harder and get the 2000 in preference to the 800 right now.
What would you go for then gang? Rane 68 or this new Pio DJM2k?
I really like the look of the Pio but would I buy one....with money.....probably not. I think I'd still go with the Rane and add and EFX1000 to the party.
Well I know it is alot of money but i defo want to order one,
It is alot of money but pioneer stuff mostly is,
Pulse go somewhere else with the predictable pio propaganda
wow, this looks really sick! plus the price tag is reasonable.
If they spent less money developing fancy spash videos, they might be able to lower the price a little.
Xone 4D still kills it.
All the big companies already released new mixer this year, Denon DN-X1600, Rane Sixty-Eight, and now Pioneer DJM-2000, so my question now is where the hell is my Xone 5D :P
Thank you Gizmo.
@JohnDP, understand is another art...
MSRP is not the price I expect to pay in a store. $ and £ don't speak to € people because tax and rate and political choice for markets are different. So we have the price for USA & UK and that's it : if this make you feel the best, then enjoy.
Design = Win
Price = Fail
Only 1 Mic input = Fail
Still no full kill eqs huh?
This is a nice mixer good job Pioneer.
To bad it is only catered to owners of the cdj2000/900. I think the price is alright. I will spare no expense for a good mixer but if I'm going to fork out the cash it has got to be totally useable for me. (ie TSP certified)
Pioneer is trying to hog the dj booth, will there be any room left for me to bring my own gear?
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"Pulse go somewhere else with the predictable pio propaganda"
@krimson - Propaganda? I was helping Gizmo and other readers with information he didn't have on his site when I posted. Besides, I'm a National Trainer for Pioneer and have answers to questions Gizmo doesn't. What's wrong with posting links to information?
@keeping it real - Actually, it does! You flip the switch down on the bottom right to flip the EQs from traditional EQ of -26dB to a full kill.
Will I need a diploma in order to mix ?
Just curious... since this mixer has a full fledge soundcard, is there a chance that it will get traktor certification?
Interesting piece. I think they will sell only a couple, but really it isn't that kind of piece. It is the all-singing, all-dancing wonder hub, and for a touring DJ or serious club, it could be a great swiss arm knife. While I still have a lot off issues as far as the pots and faders that Pio uses on its gear given the price, for the target audience I'm not sure that matters a whole lot either. (at least in the case of the faders)
What I don't like on the other hand is the fact that you have only two turntable inputs, furthermore quite badly positioned.
I still know a lot of djs that like playing with three TTs, IMHO this is a BIG mistake.
For the rest, looks cool - particularly the midi pages are appealing, even though I think they could have added a permanent filter control (the fact that you must choose between a filter and another effect is quite annoying.
@Bios - but Pioneer intend for this to be used as a CDJ-900/2000 compliment rather than for turntables.
Hey! Where is the DJM-900?
@Bios - Another phono input could be useful, admittedly, but in a world that's increasingly digital (CD/DVS), I'm all for more line inputs these days. After all, a phono input is useless to someone who's using line level sources. If the worst comes to the worst, you can always hook up an external pre-amp to a line input if you really need three deck mixing with vinyl.
The thing looks very good,but 3 grand for a display and a efx1000 implemented in it..no thanks.
It would be awesome if there was a DJM-800 with the Noise effect and frequency knobs for the efx though.
..Sixty Eight, Sixty Eight, Sixty Eight.. ahw.. Wait, both mixers are around the same price but PIO's got a touch screen and some sick pages..?!.. Pioneer, Pioneer, Pioneer,..Damn, I'm going to have to change my blog name here!.. And where the fu*k is James Zebiela this time?..
Nah!.. So far the Xone 4D and Sixty Eight in my opinion still kill it in the 4 channel department. @Professorbx, I agree that Pioneer pots suck! Rane has always made much better pots and calibratable faders. With Rekordbox, perhaps Mixvibes certified??.. Hahah.. the rest of us are NI or SSL. And, where's a plug for a footswitch?.. would help since it's massively overkill on the EFX! MIDI touch screen?!. I wonder how reliable the touch screen will be after awhile?. Minus points in the Phono department. Does this thing speak to any Video Mixers? The Denon DN-X1600 does. And for any NI or SL users, do we still have the same problem of switching between laptops? Rane and Numark have already solved this issue.. And which recording + production software will give you better options than Abbleton??..
The separate buttons for EFX notes (1/8, 1/4..etc) are nice as you can jump around rather than dial your way (Get JB to do another demo..LOL) The 12 buttons for EFX should have been MIDI shift-enabled to say the least.. I wish it was a little more compact (like a 3 channel Empath complete with touch screen with DJM-909 cross-fader and a usable mic as the 4th channel option + FOOT SWITCH..) This could have appealed to both hip-hop + house DJ's - bedroom, mobile, or mid-club-size. And what's with this "Ministry" name or feature..?
Overall, I'm convinced with a subtle interest but a mixer specifically made for CDJ-2000's would damage wallets when going for the full-meal-deal!. Come to think about it, simple math tells me that you can get a brand new MacBook Pro, 2xSL1200 or V7's, and a RANE Sixty Eight/Xone 4D/5D?/ or even a DN-X1600 with Edirol V4 and be well on your way to DJ goodness with more arsenal and flexibility in your overall pipeline. But, Pioneer sure can pull an audience.. (..but those propaganda videos need some re-tooling.. Bring back James
Wow it's certainly an eyebrow raiser, there's some pretty ground breaking features, I don't think 2g ish uk price is unfair. As mentioned a foot pedal and multi usb ports seems like a very obvious option pioneer have missed out.
Once there was a time £500 to £700 would get you a top of the range mixer, I'd love to see where things will be in ten years time, are pioneer risking there thrown by not completely embracing controllers and dvs? Of course many loyal pio fans will be saving there hard earned for the whole set up. But as a beginner what would you do, considering most dj's who are starting off will already have a laptop, buying some software and a controller at half the price of one cdj 2000 (which doesn't really have many performance features), hmmmm.
To me pioneer new species kit is pretty amazing but it's only (only?) going to be super star dj's and money laden pioneer fans that will buy in to this new kit. Will your average hi street club be splashing out 5g for two new cdj's and a flash mixer, I don't think so. Only people at the top of there game will be working at cubs with these installed, so unless you like flash toys and spending lots of money, whats the point of your average dj having something they will not be able to play out on, well unless you wanna take the beast out on the road with you.
I respect pioneer for continuing to do what they do best, it would of been very easy to jump on the controller band wagon. Imagine what pioneers answer to the vci/xone dx would look feel and perform like?! It would be such an easy sell. But I suppose this is there answer to the rise of the computer dj, Time will tell. but I'm not convinced pio will still be sitting at the top in 10 years, could this be the turning point, more and more dj's are getting there head turned by software everyday, personally I dream of a world where every dj both has ssl or audio 8 soundcards installed and ready to go, I'm sure I'm not alone.
I only see two fader start jacks. What gives?
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"I still know a lot of djs that like playing with three TTs, IMHO this is a BIG mistake."
@Bios - There are fewer and clubs with more than 2 TT's and the majority of those are using a DVS which doesn't require a phono level input. For anyone still looking for use a 3rd turntable with a mixer like this, they could even purchase a RIAA-preamap (~$30).
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"I only see two fader start jacks. What gives?"
@K1LLGANNON - Believe it or not, it's a cost-saving decision and polling of DJs found that very few were using them, so they cut it down to 2.
These guys are totally thinking installation. The Ethernet Port thing is genius, and, if implemented correctly, could account for very low latency and great sound quality. And I absolutely love the way Pionner takes functions from pre-existing equipment (namely the 909 and the EFX-1000), make it a tiny bit better, slap a new name and make it seem like the second coming. Other manufacturers should take notice.
@Pulse
cost saving? Really? Haha! So how much would it be with 4? $5000?
Is it rackmountable? It looks about 19"....
@Pulse: Rotary Kit?
Nice job Pioneer. If it gets Traktor certification, I will sell my NS7+NSFX for a CDJ+DJM 2000 set up.
You know I always like Pioneer products but lately the price on their new gears has been too much for any regular dj to afford. I am still thinking of saving some money for their gears (love the cdj2000 & DJM2000) just to have them...i dunno but their is something about Pioneer that keeps hunting me on my sleep. I also love Rane 68.
@K1LLGANNON - Believe it or not, it's a cost-saving measure. I don't know the value of adding or removing it, but in general terms of "where can we shave down the cost", that was one which took a hit.
Yes, it is rackmountable with optional ears (part number TBA).
@JohnDP - Haven't heard about a rotary option yet, I'll ask.
@Brainstormer - Certification doesn't really mean much... the CDJ2000's are already included in the configuration wizard with HID communication, chances are good the DJM2000 will also become part of that wizard and thus configuration doesn't take more than a couple of clicks. All that and it's supported by NI.
this mixer looks awesome and i can't wait to try it in a club
. I'm not suprised by the pricetag... not sure i'd invest in it even if i could though.
It's ok, wait a few months for the mail in rebates to lower the cost and induce sales.
They've lost their touch with this new round.
I think sales will illustrate this when it's said and done (inb4 positive marketing spin).
rs
We are so excited about this mixer. The <a href="http://www.discostudio.co.uk/pioneer-djm2000.html">Pioneer DJM2000</a> is a great step forward for pioneer’s digital product lines and we can’t wait for the release date!
We are so excited about this mixer. The
DJM2000 is a great step forward for pioneer’s digital product lines and we can’t wait for the release date!
Did you just shamelessly plug your DJ retail business on
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"Did you just shamelessly plug your DJ retail business on ?"
LOL BUSTED!
LOL ... Twice!
I really like many ideas of the new djm 2000 (efx, touchscreen, ...) but pioneer showed a bit of their arrogance in this product:
- Many people simply want a mixer where they can plug in a USB cable and use it as an interface for their DVS system. This is impossible as the mixer only has outs but no ins...
Great for Midi/HID playback with controllers but bad for DVS users.
- If I'm correct, MIDI works only through a MIDI cable which isn't really comfortable for laptop users as they mostly need an extra interface for it...
- Only one usb connector means difficult times when switching laptops except of those that use the Rekordbox over ProDJ Link stuff...
IMO this mixer dismisses the chance to be the one size fits all which would have given a killer argument for pioneer sales at no sacrifice of their cdj sales...
My questions:
- The mixer can preview tunes from the laptop - so the ProDJ link supports audio?! - Now do I only need to connect the RJ45 cables between the CDJs and the mixer or are the audio cables still needed? If it works through RJ45, will other vendors be able to tie into this? Would be great to use a CDJ2000 + DJM2000 booth with HID & MIDI with audio output in Traktor by just plugging in a RJ45 cable. That would also allow for easy switching between 2 DJs with their preferred software...
and god says: CRAP.
the best mixer is djm 800 + 4x4 audio interface + plugins as fx so u can handle unlimited kinds of efx !!!
or better with the first 100% hardware dvs with zero latency, no dopouts and other shit caused by todays bad operating systems like microsoft windows and apple osx.
"It is also possible to output the master output to the computer. This makes it extremely convenient to record the mixed audio."
3000$ is to cheap for traktor scratch certification :D
and use it for djdecks, mixvibes, deckadance, etc is too high for pioneer.
@GRiNSER, some goo points. And after extrapolating the diagram of 4 decks via LAN/RJ45 it'd be a shame if TSP is not accommodated. @RS, somehow I think A&H, Rane, Numark are catching up but still even for myself, I still have some prejudices against some historically "affordable" brands but NO_Pio_Peter pointed out that even the Denon DN-X1600 is V-link enabled thus attractive for VDJ's (I see video as the next layer of DJing if not already.. AND, not that Denon are a "lower" brand but at least they were in the CD deck and DJ game long before Pioneer). My DJM-909 still works great however but the sound on that mixer is nowhere close to the Empath or TTM's..
My bets are with RANE/Serato for future supremacy as software+hardware integration can unlock many more potentials (processing power gets greater every 12to18 so its better to use that available power). However, the Sixty Eight does NOT have MIDI outs and looks like a 1 way stream through Serato (we'll find out soon). I sense some stiff competition between the big players but why are they all going for that over-rated slot for super-club install when the majority of DJ's occupy more bedrooms, lounges, and smaller venues and parties..??
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"I sense some stiff competition between the big players but why are they all going for that over-rated slot for super-club install when the majority of DJ's occupy more bedrooms, lounges, and smaller venues and parties..??"
Agreed. Finally, someone who understands economics...
@GRiNSER
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"Many people simply want a mixer where they can plug in a USB cable and use it as an interface for their DVS system. This is impossible as the mixer only has outs but no ins..."
But if you're using Serato you need an SL box as an audio interface. If you happen to be using any of the supported HID controller devices (eg. CDJ400, CDJ900, CDJ2000) with Serato, Traktor, VirtualDJ, MixVibes, you don't need inputs for your DVS because you connect direct from the player via USB.
The mixer's soundcard has 4 pairs out and one pair in (for recording).
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"If I'm correct, MIDI works only through a MIDI cable which isn't really comfortable for laptop users as they mostly need an extra interface for it..."
Good thing it works with both USB and DIN-5.
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"Only one usb connector means difficult times when switching laptops except of those that use the Rekordbox over ProDJ Link stuff..."
Which is the target audience.
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"The mixer can preview tunes from the laptop - so the ProDJ link supports audio?! - Now do I only need to connect the RJ45 cables between the CDJs and the mixer or are the audio cables still needed?"
It's not explained fully yet, but the way audio gets to the laptop is over USB with the mixer acting as a soundcard. When used with CDJ2000's or CDJ900's, the laptop (running Rekordbox) will allow you to send the data to the players. There is no audio-over-CAT5, just data. I don't believe there are any plans to open the networking protocols to other companies at this time, although I'm now curious as to whether the Numark V7's link function would work through the DJM2000 or not.
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"If it works through RJ45, will other vendors be able to tie into this? Would be great to use a CDJ2000 + DJM2000 booth with HID & MIDI with audio output in Traktor by just plugging in a RJ45 cable. That would also allow for easy switching between 2 DJs with their preferred software..."
The primary target with this product is obviously the CDJ2000/CDJ900 user, and Pioneer is trying to move DJs away from their laptops, so that may be why there's only one USB connection.
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"...Pioneer is trying to move DJs away from their laptops, so that may be why there's only one USB connection.
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Hmmm... That's an interesting comment.
@Pulse:
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"But if you're using Serato you need an SL box as an audio interface. If you happen to be using any of the supported HID controller devices (eg. CDJ400, CDJ900, CDJ2000) with Serato, Traktor, VirtualDJ, MixVibes, you don't need inputs for your DVS because you connect direct from the player via USB."
I use TSP so that is where my perspective comes from. If they built in an interface with 4 in 4 out + 1 out, TSP could have easily been certified, also another argument for putting such a mixer in the club. Then Serato would also get more pressure to certify that thing. With all the other features that would have been killer for everybody. One (or 3 if you use the CDJs) USB Plug, all the possibilities - every club would buy that thing...
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"Good thing it works with both USB and DIN-5."
Alright, that's great then!
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"Only one usb connector means difficult times when switching laptops except of those that use the Rekordbox over ProDJ Link stuff..."
Which is the target audience.
The primary target with this product is obviously the CDJ2000/CDJ900 user, and Pioneer is trying to move DJs away from their laptops, so that may be why there's only one USB connection."
Well if they primarely targetet their CDJ ecosystem, why did they add Laptop capabilities then? Why did they add multitouch MIDI support? Why did they add a soundcard? Finally, why did they stop at the inputs of the soundcard...
The temptation for me to convert to the Pioneer 2000 Decks and Mixer is high. Because I feel stuck with the NS7, I don't like Itch and this thing is still not supported by Traktor. Numark NS7 HID is a proprietary technology as well as the Itch software.
If the new Pioneer technology is bringing on new proprietary technology like the RekordBox and ProDJ Link are they aiming to close the digital only DJs to their stuff only? I don't want to be cramped down with closed (proprietary) technology. If I spend the 5000$ for 2 CDJ-2000 and 1 DJM-2000, I want my new system to be flexible and plug in extra stuff like a Maschine and be able to play with Traktor. I don't want that Rane/Numark/Itch closed technology and I want to be able to upgrade in the future and be able to plug in new or older Decks to my mixer.
@BrainStormer
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"I want my new system to be flexible and plug in extra stuff like a Maschine and be able to play with Traktor."
There is nothing that would stop you from doing so. Simply plug the CDJ2000s onto your laptop via USB and also connect the USB audio interface of the DJM2000. Now you can use the CDJs as Traktor Controllers via HID (Traktor already supports all CDJs with HID possibilities) and use the DJM as the audio output interface for Traktor...
Only DVS/TSP users need to use an external interface. Meh.
We'd all love to have a free and open hardware plugging in love-fest and expect everything to work perfectly glitch free. The reality is that whether we like it or not, closed systems are designed to work hand in hand with each other, and always give better results than open systems.
And while people may moan about this not being able to work with that, Pioneer have made what they see as the perfect system - CDJs working hand in hand with the DJM-2000 via the Pro DJ Link and Rekordbox. Granted - you may be able to hook up other units and hope to have a modicum of communication, but it is nothing more than a nod in the direction DVS and MIDI users.
In reality, Pioneer want this CDJ/DJM setup to be in every big club in the world - to the exclusion of all other platforms. If however you can get it to work with anything else then that's nothing more than a bonus.
@Gizmo: Couldn't word it better. Pioneer operates like any normal business should behave and as the past has proven they are the ones that may have the best cards in this gear family game... Still a more open environment would be great for all DJs... At least the growing diversity how DJs do their thing lead to some concessions by Pioneer & Co...
..The world is still divided and everyone can dream of an OpenDJ system but Giz has a point. I would think that the entire Pio setup will give you some sick results however, Like I said, chip technology, computers, and soon pads will make the CDJ's bulky and old! I bet there will be something MUCH more radical around the corner! The mixers will adapt to whatever technology can bring but it's now almost a no-brainer that you absolutely need a laptop computer either before, durring, and after (musician, DJ, VJ..whatever!
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And for anyone who thinks that CDJ's should replace Technics SL1200's, think about the same analogy as comparing a digital stop watch to a good classic swiss qaurtz watch.??.. Competition is good and its much to our benefit : ) Thank you Pionner. Can't wait to try it but it doesn't mean I won't stop from trying anything else..
@GRiNSER
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"Well if they primarely targetet their CDJ ecosystem, why did they add Laptop capabilities then? Why did they add multitouch MIDI support? Why did they add a soundcard? Finally, why did they stop at the inputs of the soundcard..."
While they are trying to push DJs to a "computerless" system, not putting in some essentials would be shooting themselves in the foot and cutting out potential customers who are using a laptop yet still want the mixer.
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"Still a more open environment would be great for all DJs..."
...and as Gizmo points out, potentially ripe with problems. Everyone would love to be able to use Pioneer products in a different way and trying to meet all those uses is not only difficult to engineer and market, but also to support. Since getting my MacBook Pro I see why Apple is able to boast about fewer crashes than Windows; they're supporting a very limited set of hardware configurations whereas Windows has to work on MILLIONS of different configurations (and that in itself is kind of impressive). A closed system is the way to go not only for simplicity but again, as Giz pointed out, it's good for business too.
@BrainStormer
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"If the new Pioneer technology is bringing on new proprietary technology like the RekordBox and ProDJ Link are they aiming to close the digital only DJs to their stuff only? I don't want to be cramped down with closed (proprietary) technology."
The proprietary function of dumping audio directly from the computer to the players is Pioneer's, yes, but this mixer allows you to use it with any software or hardware as you would any other mixer. The built-in LINK just allows you to connect your laptop and CDJs to the mixer without having to use another piece of hardware (a network switch/hub).
@Ddial - well said.
I can't imagine how anyone thinks the Rane 68 even compares to the 2000! It's not even close. Especially given the street price is supposed to be exactly the same... I'm a big fan of Rane Products, had the TTM56 and an Empath and loved them both. The 68 looks like the furthest thing from a Rane there could be and the only people it's useful to is SSL uers (a group growing smaller every day).
Pioneer took what they do best, for the deejays that love it already (the vast majority of the big boys) and built on that. I love it! Will I be turning in my DJM800 or EFX1000 to spend $2,600 on the 2000 any time soon? Nope (gotta get some CDJ-2000's first), but I definitely would if I was a club.
So, even if it's not the perfect
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"free and open hardware plugging in love-fest"
The new Pioneer 2000 deck and mixer environment is way more open than the NS7 unit. That is why this summer i'll switch to Pioneer.
Thanx for all the answers.
@Gavin Varitech
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..I would like for you to prove your point, but as you can see with the vast array of gear scattered on their website, I think Serato is creating a loop of their own in which they are cleverly instrumentalizing nextlevelness with powerful brands such as Ableton, A&H, Akai, Vestax, Denon,..etc whereas Pioneer is simply keeping to themselves and expanding the hot air of your debt bubble (although I think the price here is absolutely reasonable..how clever for them to wait for the release tag of SixtyEight and then suddenly BAM! Oh so tempting but as you read the fine print, some features work only with CDJ900 or 2000!..so that means extra$$$ to make those lights blink more :P - keep your gear Gavin Varitech and wait for NI's Serato-killer mixer!
But Pionner's integrating EFX1000+SVM1000 was natural and if they can compact it even more into a smaller style DJM-909009BUYME_MK_II then we're turning even more headz! However, the fundamental problem with Pioneer is top-down driven whereas Serato is coming from avenues that will make many more musicians, producers, bedroom DJ's..etc, overall, a greater spectrum of artists happy because they can choose a wider range of instruments as needed at various price points and with different vendors (haha..Economic Systemic Collaborative GENIUS) I respect Native Instruments but they seem to be falling short at the moment from gear offerings. Now the question is: Will Serato sleep with NI on Pioneers bed??... Shall we say, NextlevelmessyGearness..? (Just kiddin' Giz. LOL. This year's going to be great!"
what's the point of the frequency mixing feature if the EQs already do that?
Seems useless.
@Joey - You can now do with one hand across multiple bands what you needed two hands to do with greater difficulty and less accuracy. Trust me, this isn't EQing, this is a whole new way of blending tracks together, so don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
@Pulse - Seen this feature several years back (late 90's, DJ Mag t-scan, probably a KAM, not sure) in a mixer with 3 crossfaders. Seemed like a good idea, but it didn't take. I wonder why it would now...
@ Pulse yup I remember exactly what you are talking about. IT was a 3 crossfader mixer with a low med and hi fader and the low could be reassigned to just mix normally.
what i see happening is that companies are digitizing what we have already been doing for a long time.
except NOW we can click a mouse instead of learning how to do it manually with our own hands and some analogue gear.
pulse you can call it less accurate or whatever, but give me a rotary dj mixer with a dedicated eq and i can make the music sing more than letting a computer do it.
dj's do it better. computers just play
The first "hammer" was a rock. Now there are hammers for roofers, drywallers, fine finishing work, etc... Tools improve, why shouldn't a mixer find new innovation? This is just another tool and the tool doesn't make the craftsman.
@ Pulse "The first "hammer" was a rock. Now there are hammers for roofers, drywallers, fine finishing work, etc... Tools improve, why shouldn't a mixer find new innovation? This is just another tool and the tool doesn't make the craftsman."
Tools improve but they also evolve. Is a hammer still a hammer if it doesn't have a head and grip, but a cord and nail belt? It's a nail gun not a hammer!
But you are right, the tool doesn't make the craftsman, I was merely pointing out the redundancy of producers. Personally I won't buy the darn thing because it's much more of the same'ol with a little tweak here and there. Not much has changed since the DJM-500 honestly. Yeah people use computers, but that is another arguement all into itself on whether clicking a mouse is actually mixing.
It would be awesome if there was a DJM-800 with the Noise effect and frequency knobs for the efx though.
DJM-2000
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