I am very impressed with the response when he pressed on the buttons.

Looks like a good product.

so there is a unit in addition to the mixer. i think this is kinda cool...but it it midi or dvs? serato is the dvs in this video so it makes me wanna say it's midi, but the way the stanton unit interacts with serato makes it not midi alone. this makes me confused but i like it.

Damn Gizmo what the hell is that thing......

Kudos...
You are the man when it comes to breaking equipment..

Sh!t the video is to dark to make out how it looks.

or you could just use the midi controller you already have...

I know what it iiiiisss, na nah nah!

This is the best piece of gear in ages. And reasonabley priced.

The video is meant to be dark and out of focus. They don't want you to see what it looks like til they launch it. Which will be soon!

If I say anymore the Stanton mob will have me sleeping with the fishes.

you´re a smart ass.

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But conventional MIDI controllers are designed to be a complete set of decks, with jog wheels and a layout that isn't optimised for DVS use. This unit sits between a deck and a mixer, has no unnecessary jog wheels and is designed specifically to reduce the annoying dependancy on the laptop. That's what gets me excited about it.

Like I said in my NS7 piece, in an ideal world, I'd use a computer simply as a replacement for my record crates, and for my attention when working to be returned to my gear rather than a keyboard. I know DVS systems are good, but they just don't fit in with this old man's preferred method of DJing. This new Stanton box puts a nice distance between me and my computer and back on my gear.

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in traktor/traktor scratch you can assign hotkeys absolutely freely - i use a faderfox dx2 (which is so small i can place it over my laptop keyboard) and control 3 decks with it, changing the timecode deck assignment, master/slave functions, loop, browser...

so, i'm not that impressed with the stanton product, i already have what i need

I don't know. it's nothing you couldn't do with any other MIDI controller, and after all the recent failures (I mean, WTF were those cheap mixers and CD decks all about?), I just don't trust stanton anymore...

Hmm... Cool idea, but I think it would have been way cooler if it had a crossfader and upfaders built in.

I totally agree with you Gizmo, i think it would be perfect if we can just use the dj equipment and hide the laptop and don't even have to look at it for a whole show.

It's much nicer to see a 2 turntables and a mixer setup, the laptop just don't fit very well.

i do dat with my ttm57sl

and you will still need the laptop to browse ur crates.

GIZMO - MAYBE ITS ABOUT UNPERSONAL EYE CONTROL, DUMMING WATCHING TO MONITOR TO CONTROL CUEPOINTS, CRATES... TRACKS..
PEOPLE STAYING FRONT OF DJS , AND DJ IS HIDDEN BEYOND THE LAPTOP, THIS IS THE REAL WRONG. DJS LOOKS LIKE THEY READING EMAILS DURING THE THEIR OWN SET :-(

not impressed..a laptop,a special device,a mixer,2 decks..pfffffffff

i'll be fine with just 3 out of 5,forget the other 2.

Am I mistaken oris he playing around with FX and a sampler ?? This unit has an audio through as well ?

to bas the lighting is too low

It's hard to make anything out right now, but the principle looks cool.

Hey Native Girl - The Faderfox is really good. But I feel it's quite expensive, needs either a supply of batteries or another PSU to carry around as well as needing another interface to convert MIDI to USB. Obviously not in your case as you just plug into your Audio8. Isn't it time Faderfox brought out a USB version to make life a lot easier?

Serato_boy - lucky you having a 57. But that limits you to Serato and a big hole in your bank account. What about all the other DVS and non 57 users out there?

I'm always coming up with ideas for products, and if this one does what I hope it does, it's one less project for me to devote time to. And if it proves to be a winner, then expect more like it. Frankly I'm surprised it's taken this long. More info as I get it.

I'm not one to bash a new midi product the more the merrier however I won't be needing it cause I use my zero4 like this already. Never touch the laptop.

If it's nothing else than a MIDI controller it's not exactly revolutionary...It's cool that manufacturers come out with more specialized gear, but I allready do this in both CUE and Serato with my Akai MPD24..Cool, but not something that will turn the DVS market upside down...(unless I'm missing some vital points here...) :P

Yeah, it's about time a company release something like this, but it comes a little late. I thought about a device like this 2 years ago but I would think that it would be better sitting on the top end of your mixer instead of beside it. If it's less than 100$, they might have a winner, but if it's the same price as an MPD...I don't think so.

Yeah...I dont really see the huge deal about this (unless there is some hidden aspect...which I'm sure there is).

Not to toot ECLER's horn, but I can do all that with a NUO4 and Traktor (or Traktor Scratch)...choose tracks, set loop points, use the effects in Traktor..all on one mixer. Better yet, with the EVO5, I can do all that PLUS have the interface built in (same with the Korg ZERO mixers...even the XONE:34/4D)....*shrug*

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gizmo, I use Korg Pad Kontrol in that same fashion and I dont use my laptop at all peep my live stream videos on youtube. www.youtube.com/djnos2000 any midi controller can be used to do do just that not just midi mixers I have my programed to scroll thru my crates , load tracks, even cue buttons, matter of fact my midi controller sits on my laptop stand right above my decks

The big deal is that it is a touch sensitive surface for $249 that is made for DVS systems and doesn't suck. The nice thing is that it is made to control EVERYTHING with minimal setup/effort, so all the complaints about DJ's looking like they are cruising the internet are kind of out the window as you should only need to look at your screen for brief moments.

249$?? Hehehe ok I'm outta here

I'm with J. Thrice, I can do the same thing and a whole lot more... with the $300 Behringer DDM4000... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtBpGyivfLw


But, this controller looks cool none the less and can't wait to see more info about it.

I know you can do all kinds of wonderful stuff with somewhat expensive 4 channel ubermixers, but that's a crapload of money to spend for the ultimately streamlined DVS system.

But what about those people who run a more modest setup? And those who only want 2 channels? Of those who want to add to - rather than than replace - their setup? I put myself in this bracket. I just want a really effective way to minimise the reliance on laptop control. That's why I'm giddy about this. And because I know just a little more about this than I'm willing to divulge as well.

True and I understand that Giz, but really, the video doesn't show anything that can't already be done in SSL (or any other DVS) with simple pad controllers like an MPD16 or a Triggerfinger, he was only doing instant doubles, loading tracks, triggering cue points and auto loops. An MPD16 or Triggerfinger can do all this also and aren't big or bulky by any means and are pretty small and can sit next to your mixer, though this Stanton controller looks even smaller, and it's got pretty flashing lights. I'm sold right there. 8)

I am with Giz with this one. The effects that seem to be on offer do not bother me but I have been looking for the right MIDI controller for a while. I even thought about touch screen but the size of the buttons on screen would be limiting.
I have my mixer and I am very happy with it. It has two channels which is all I need, I do not need uber programming features on a controller, I do not need velocity sensitive keys. I also want a layout that makes sense, so far I have not seen a MIDI controller that offers what I want. What I want is simple, A control surface for track selection,hands on controls for the multiple cues, simple controls for the loops.
Every other product I have seen seems to come packed with jog wheels, a set up for one deck (so either a bad setup for controlling all functions or two controllers needed) and tend to be a very bad layout as the product has to be adapted for DJ use rather than being designed for the purpose. The Pad Kontrol is great but not designed for the DJ but for the producer.
I have even looked at solutions like the X-Keys, A great idea but not quite there as again it is adaptation rather than designed for the purpose.
The touch screen is great, it looks simple in use. This keeps things simple as after many years of touch screens, I have come to love the touch screen that forgives you if you are not 100% accurate with every move. This can be through big buttons such as my Pio 909 or smart technology such as my iPhone. I have used Windows Mobile devices in the past. they are great and I have been happy with every one of these devices I have owned but after using the touch screen on the iPhone, they seem old hat now. My mate has just got the HTC touch and this has just pushed this belief.
Anyway, i digress. Where this links back is that the touch pad on this device seems like a simple up and down affair for selecting tracks, no controlling the mouse pointer. This is what is needed. The touch parts for the loops/cues (if they are on the touch part) seem to be fairly big areas to hit.
I for one am waiting for more news. Some products have got close to what I want in the past but I still finding myself trying to think how I would use the product (and always found waisted features like faders or jog wheels). As this seems to be designed for what I want I can not wait for more news.
This might be the first bit of kit I will add to my setup for years. After going through a lot of equipment I look hard for what I want and will only add when it is right.
P.S. Some of the mixers put above are great, I do not think anyone will say any other way but I do not want a 19" mixer. As for the little Korgs, I think they feel cheap and I can not forgive them that.
Sorry for the long post

This product is so unique and such good value for money that we've pre-ordered 1,000 units for this christmas. You won't have to wait long to be amazed, DA future is bright, DA future is Blue...

It would be just great if it have 5 buttons and a small screen. 2 buttons to choose the deck, 2 buttons to go forward and backwards and one button to submit.

That way we could browse for lets say genre, then hit submit, choose the artist, then submit, choose the album and finally song. You didn't even need to have the laptop near you to choose the music you want to put on a deck.

Off course for looping and more complicated stuff it wouldn't be enough, but it would fit to a lot of dj's that just want to mix traditionally with digital music.

What do you think ?

Hey Giz, I've read at other sites that this information about the new controller was supposed to be kept under wraps until the offficial unveiling next week? How'd you get so lucky to get your hands on it??

Guitar Center sent out postcards early, so something had to be said so the rumor mill didn't start spinning.

yo giz i didnt mean use your "dj" midi controller i meant
any old midi controller (preferably pads not keys)

i am not into the idea of putting more space between the decks

ill just use a laptop stand and trigger finger if need be

but this is all one mans opinion

with that setup i can do everything that dude on the video can do, and it only set me back 150 bucks I never touch my laptop ever, the My MPD has been replaced with a korg pad kontrol so it lights up just like the stanton controller, its not really a big deal really. me personally i dont like space between my mixer and tables so i got a turntable stand.

looks like this to me...

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1007

ok i didnt mean to put a super huge picture up, im sure giz can resize it. but there you go

i think youre right N.O.S. and the solution for all this stuf fis the DaRouter software which translates all the stuff into keyboard and mouse commands....
Hey Johnny Thrice, i hope you read this, i was looking for soemthing similar to the sl57 but more open, means midi control, i really like the ecler nuo4. but the thing that concerns me is that its already more than 3 years old, are you guys coming up with a new mixer with these feature. ive seen the evo models, but they dont have any buttons, just knobs... what i need are buttons and knobs. i really like the idea about switching midi channels with a knob and then have additional buttons, this is great! i gonna give you a visit at frankfurt music fair next year and ask those questions again

A bunch of scratch heads (nerds) excited about a MIDI product? Wholly [sic] (censor), I think I need to short some Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks since the world is coming to its end.

Oh (censor), I'm too (censor)-ing late for that (censor) too!

no pots?

i kinda like the way it looks from that link n2 posted

I share your feelings when it comes to not trusting a computer in my setup, which is also why I'm stuck to CD decks and one turntable.

How are those CDXs working out for you? I'm stuck on the c314s still and have been stuck on the idea of getting CDJ800s -- but I'm not so sure. The CDXs don't look bad, and neither do the hybrids by Gemini and Numark. I'm not so sure if CDJ800s are necessarily the ultimate upgrade . . .

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yes, the faderfox is not cheap (230€), but the quality is good. it doesnt feel like some cheap plastic toy
also, the batteries last forever. and there's a LED showing you when it's time to change waaay *before* it stops.

i love the nuo4 (hi jonny! ) and always hoped that ecler would come up with sth slimmer (instead there came this tank of evo5, omg ) BUT, the most important thing about the faderfox is PORTABILITY.

why do i need a DVS that replaces kilos of vinyls when i then need another bag to carry a mixer with me??!
the faderfox fits in my dj bag, too. all i have to do is to ask for a 3-channel mixer at the venue, because i use T3 and use 3 decks.

(ATM i have stuff enuff to carry around, i'm breast-feeding my baby, so i have to take her - and a babysitter - with me when i'm spinning out. please, not another bag, hehe!

but you're right regarding the interface connection: i hook it up to the audio 8 (another big up for its versatility). a usb version for all others would be convenient.

...........best dj midi-controller around!

100 buck´s

Is this it? Thanks to my man DJ Ltizzzle www.myspace.com/ltizzzle for an e-mail this morning with this link. Then I caught the article here.

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1007

Looks good! Don't need one, but if you need such a thing...

do u think this will work with ableton? i reckon it looks pretty nice. i guess the software stanton bring out for it could include a vsti. dunno. always like new ideas.

If it's a MIDI Controller, then you need no VSTi. You can map it to whatever control in Ableton Live you want.

I can see myself using this to control Traktor as a standalone unit, but I really wonder how you can "scratch" with it...depends on how the touch surface feels...

Any news on price and release date etc...?

for those of you asking if the unit is an fx processor as well, it isn't - although he's making FX in the video.

The "echo fade" is just a short loop he sets and brings the fader down to zero.

The "flanger/phaser/mechanize" effect is created by duplicating the track onto both decks and having them play at the same time a few milliseconds apart. this creates that effect. I do it right now in SSL by using the instant doubles feature and playing them both out the master.

to me it is a standard midi controller with assign buttons built in the mixer -basically Stanton's version of the RANE 57 without the assignable effect buttons.

SOME djs would find a use for this thing but I prefer the old school way of hard work/practice pays off-

A turntablist dj with experience could EASILY do that mix with standard vinyl records with markers including a beat juggle replacing the beat box drum machine spots the guy did for the product demo-no question.

My point is,push too many buttons and people are going to start seeing you as a sell out sucker dj pussy-wher is the skill? Keep it raw and real.

You don't want to be like TIMBALAND-dj turned producer (who sucked as a dj)but now no longer djs and works in a studio only-he turned his back on djing and fronted.

If that photo is the real deal I fear that spanky lights or not, that thing is gonna be FAR too fiddly for use in a dark club. A fun toy maybe...

I currently use a PadKontrol with Serato and find the much bigger pads on there are only just big enough for my fat fingers to prod cues repeatedly on beat.

As others above have mentioned, this doesn't really add much functionality for Serato above an MPD/Pad Kontrol/Trigger Finger because all the controls are already midi enabled, there's nothing more to drag from the software. I use relative mode, and the computer never gets touched during normal play.

I would personally just like a sturdy, metal cased equivalent of the PadKontrol specifically for DJing, as six months of gigs has basically destroyed my current one, with knobs broken off and all sorts.

Finally, apart from 'trackpad jocks' using VDJ and such, I don't understand all this complaining about looking at laptop screens. In the past I spent far longer looking through record boxes for tunes, and that was usually with my back to the crowd! How good was my eye contact then?

What's the name of the track at the beginning of the video? I'm brain farting.

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More Bounce To The Ounce by Zapp. I'm lucky enough to have the 12".

Cats out DaBag

http://www.westenddj.co.uk/product.asp?mod=SCS-3D

So it is:

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR274797

do you have to pre-program youre hot cue points?