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Touching and scratching are the aspects of their game - Apple that is
Posted by Gizmo on August 4, 2008

Apple touch screen DJ

It's not secret that I'm a shameless Mac fanboy. I've been using them in one form or other for close to 2 decades. And right now Apple are going through a transition into something more than just a computer company. The iPod owns the MP3 player scene and the iPhone looks set to take over the phone market as well, especially if the new iPhone Nano rumours (it's a given really) are true. But when a touch screen patent application turns up, complete with virtual turntables, it's time to take a closer look.

Not let's get this out of the way first - Apple are very cloak and dagger when it comes to new gear. Often patents appear from Infinite Loop for gear that never sees the light of day. I don't know if this is to hedge their bets or to create a diversion. But this is the first time we've seen something from the mothership that directly impacts into our scene.

The nuts and bolts of this patent are the manipulation of objects on a touch screen. This is obviously an all encompassing patent to cover all kinds of user interface applications - essentially this appears to be Apple's touch screen patent. As you might expect, there reams of it with many accompanying diagrams. The DJ specific stuff is this:

Apple touch screen DJ

[0145]FIG. 23 illustrates another embodiment of the invention for manipulating the replay and recording of audio or musical files. As shown in FIG. 23, a music application 830 can display a pair of virtual turntables 842 and 843, on which two musical records 834 and 835 are playing, the records being one of a single or a LP record. The records 834 and 835 can be graphical representations of a digital musical file (e.g., song A and song B) that are being replayed via the music application 830. In other words, the records can be graphical imprints of the musical files as if the musical files were imprinted on physical records.

[0146]Like a pair of physical turntables, stylus 844 and stylus 855 can be graphical icon indications of a playback queue, the position of which can be varied by touching the queue on a touch sensitive display screen and dragging the icon to the desired position on the graphical record. The moving of the stylus would cause a jump in the playback point of the corresponding song, as on a physical turntable.

[0147]Also like a pair of physical turn tables start/stop buttons 838 and 839 can be touched by one or more fingers to toggle the start or stop/pause of the song reproduction. Speed variants bars 840 and 841 can be linearly adjusted to control the playback speed of the songs. Windows 831 and 833 can graphically reproduce the frequency representation of the reproduced songs, while window 832 can display the frequency representation of the actual output of the music application 832, which can be simply one of the songs being reproduced, or a mixed/combination of the songs. Mixing/pan bar 850 can be manipulated to modulate or demodulate the two songs being reproduced.

[0148]During song reproduction, the records 834 and 835 can be manipulated similar to a physical record. For instance, rapid back and forth movement of a record can cause the sound effect of a record "scratching," as disc jockeys often do on physical turn tables.

So are Apple attempting to patent touch screen DJing here? Well reading though the whole patent, it seems like they're going for a blanket approach, covering interface usage, photo manipulation, video playback etc etc. I'm no patent lawyer and certainly don't know any so really I'm stabbling around furiously on the dark. But on the face of it, this may preclude any software vendor from making a turntable-like experience on touch screens. To be honest, I'm not really seeing this as a problem. DJs depend on a rather more precise physical feel than a touch screen can offer when Djing, hence the mountain of controllers on the market. Perhaps Apple are bet-hedging here and trying to give DJ power to the consumer. As De La Soul said - "everybody wants to be a DJ" and all that.

What is interesting - if you take the time to wade through the patent - is this image:

Apple touch screen DJ

This shows a hand held tablet device rather than just a touch screen. Think big fat iPhone for your lap. Proportionally, you're talking a 6" x 10" device - a keyboardless OLPC really. Having got people to a phone free of keys, are Apple looking to throw away the keyboard for even more people? They threw away the floppy drive when the industry said they were insane.

Just how far reaching this touch screen technology will reach remains to be seen. I feel we'll see specific devices (I'm thinking TouchBook Air) rather than moving iMacs over to a keyboard free experience. But from a DJ perspective, having a touch screen tablet in front of your DJ setup is probably more palatable than a laptop, as it's easier to integrate and more physical than keystrokes. Hitting loop starts, hot cues and effects directly on screen is more direct than remembering key combos. It may well also impact on technologies such as MIDI. If a tablet is sat right above your mixer, running a touch screen Traktor, your MIDI controller and computer are the same thing - bye bye MIDI.

The possible implications are wide and far reaching. I'm not sure entirely touch screen DJing will take over, but touch screen devices have the possibility to become a major part of a DJ's life.

Source: Macnn

Patent: US Patent Office



16 comments to this story

On August 4, 2008, J1M commented...
Will iTunes start doing reverse mp3s to play on the anticlockwise left hand deck? :roll:

On August 4, 2008, Alkivar commented...
Fig 19F looks more like the back of a camera to me.

On August 4, 2008, Frederik commented...
djay basically already allows all of what's described in the patent. The only thing missing are touch-enabled screens in Macs.

See these videos for demos of djay used with touch-sensitive screens:
Interactive music: "djay 2" Mac audio app on a touchscreen
Low Cost Interactive Musical Surfaces - Djay LightTable

On August 4, 2008, tim tempest commented...
One reason we've not seen any DJ stuff on the iPhone / iPod touch so far is that independent companies are not allowed to access iTunes, or rather directly access the music on the iPod. Nothing to stop apple doing it themselves though.

I was reading through info on the iPhone SDK and found the above. I hope someone can tell me I'm wrong because we wont be able to see any DJ apps anytime soon.

tim tempest

On August 4, 2008, bedouin commented...
Nice find.

On August 4, 2008, eugene commented...
"If a tablet is sat right above your mixer, running a touch screen Traktor, your MIDI controller and computer are the same thing - bye bye MIDI."

I highly doubt that. What if you're triggering drum samples? You don't get the same tactile feeling and dynamics tapping a screen that you get with a dedicated midi controller.

On August 4, 2008, tobamai commented...
More importantly, eugene, is that you wouldn't get a velocity sensitive hit on those drums. Pressure sensitivity offered by touch screens is very different.

I've seen forum posts about touch screen midi units, like the jazzmutant lemur, and while owners are generally very happy with them... the novelty wears thin when they realize how void of a tactile experience it is.

On August 4, 2008, renatojsp commented...
New DJ left deck stile, BIG LOL

On August 4, 2008, Nation commented...
I've been using Traktor with a HP touch screen tablet and behringer FCB1010. The touch screen is very crude for fader and knob control, but touch screen technology will improve. The touch screen still adds a lot of value to my setup, and I would not consider being without one.

On August 5, 2008, KD commented...
The iPod owns the MP3 player scene ???
The iPhone looks set to take over the phone market ???

You must be small minded to think both those statements are true.

On August 5, 2008, Gizmo commented...
KD - you must be living in a cave if you don't know for a fact that the iPod has the majority market share of MP3 players. It was low 80s but now is high 60% market share.

I guess time will tell on the Apple market share. It's already made a dent in one year. An iPhone Nano will nearly guarantee it Apple becoming at least top 3.

Now stop baiting me and do something worthwhile. :P

On August 5, 2008, Nation commented...
I went to the USPTO website to look into this further and I saw the Apple has also published patents recently on multi point touch discrimination... the next step to being able to control the fader and the platter simultaneously with the touch screen.

On August 6, 2008, patty commented...
And if they're smart they already have a patent in the works for velocity (or pressure) detection in the touch screens...

I'd be highly surprised if this could be considered inventive (i used to be a patent lawyer till I realised how evil the system is)... we all knew about DJing software, and touch-screens... And there are no prizes for putting 2 and 2 together... (unless you get 5, which is known as synergy... get edumacated)

On August 7, 2008, KD commented...
quote:
"Now stop baiting me and do something worthwhile. :P"

I have!!! I booked a trip to Dumfries this morning to do some serious sea trout fishing for the week.

:idea: Hope they bite as good as you do :$

On August 7, 2008, Timmy Jimmy commented...
I dunno.... all this new tech is cool but I think I'll stay on the sidelines while others play keep up with the jones's. Don't get me wrong I'm not a tech hater or viynl snob. I'm just stuck in the middle I guess. I just love my tables and I haven't seen or used anything that would make me want to ship them out the door.

Sure I may miss out on some features but until something is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above an old school setup I'll stick with my old school setup.

I guess my Denon X-300, 2 1200s MK5s and Korg mini KP will have to do.... :love: Sometimes I'll get caught up in all the nextlevelness and forget the fact that, hey my setup still rocks and I can still rock a party w/o midi or touch screens or DVS.
I remember when I first started that's all I wanted... a couple of decks and a mixer. I'm not tech-hating because I'm really into following the nextlevelness movement but I'm not going to throw hard earned coin down on tech that has an abbreviated shelf life. So again, keep pushing the tech. It's all gravy baby. I think I'll sit back and wait until the a new standard is born.
Thoughts of the 45 king are going though my head.

On August 8, 2008, Mr. T commented...
I know this is completely off topic, but will you guys ever make a Xone:4d review now that it's out? I would honestly give my left nut for one!



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