And why GND cable is connected but RCAs are plug into CD inputs?????? A "new" turntable with line out and GND cable??????

Byez to all

Like you said Giz, know surprises. The MixVibes marriage should be very interesting though.

phuck yea man, i may just get this.

Looks Solid to me

Hmmm, on the back of the D.4 can someone please explain what that Post Fader/Pre EQ button is for (nearby the "FW Out". This must be new cuz the D.2 doesn't have this

Koitz_Roller: The ground cables are attached to a pair of regular turntables.

P-ter: The buttons allow you you to determine which source gets recorded, either pre-eq or post fader.

The d.4 is being pitched as a home production mixer as well as a regular club mixer, hence giving you more control over outputs.

Although I wasn't amazingly interested in this yesterday, it does look very comprehensive - the individual switchable channel outputs are what a lot of people have been waiting for I think.

Does it have send/return functions for effects units - if so it may have been what i've been waiting for!

Looks like the xone92 has a rival now....this looks solid. Any1 know if the contour on the upfaders can be changed? if so...this seems to be a very very impressive mixer but i'v got a funny feeling people will STILL sleep on it..

Let people sleep on it - the price will fall and us in the know will get a cracking mixer at a good price. I hope the send/return is implemented well. Will make and brake it for us house DJ's...

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I'd imaging thats what the Aux Sen/Aux Return is for mate.....
as there also seems to be a aux controller on the channel as well, i'm guessing wet and dry.

I don't see how you assign individual channels to the aux send though

does look very nice

just turn up the aux for whatever channel you want to be affected....

i seriously want this mixer...

how does the firewire stuff work ?

how does the firewire stuff work ? - for example does the firewire replace the sound card you need to run mixvibes , just plug in the firewire and load up mixvibes and hey presto ??

$999 sounds really competitive as well - going to be competing seriously with the big boys. DJM800, Ecler Nuo 4/5, Xone 62/92 - Can't wait to here more about this one and particularly about how well it hooks up with the Kaoss Pad 3!!!

That's a BIG mixer ?
Does it came from Mars or what ? hehe

Personally it seems cool, and I'm sure it will be a decent mixer. I liked the d2 when I tried it out (I brought one home over night and gave it a go). However, I fail to see how this piece really brings anything new to the table that can't be accomplished otherwise. I will say that the Firewire option looks like it was thought out pretty well, especially because it lends itself to integration with MixVibes or other software.

Like Sean was saying, let people sleep on it, because for the price they're asking, it's nothing groundbreaking but instead yet another entry into the oversaturated DJ products market. $999 without the $400 firewire card? I might as well buy a A&H Xone and a Presonus Firebox for the same price.

The main difference is that most other mixers will only have 2 discreet aux sends maximum - so the ability to capture all 4 channels post-fader or pre-eq over the firewire option is not really found anywhere else (and not really attainable through separate pieces of equipment).
Really they should have done something similar on the D2 - though I'm sure I heard they were going to change the firmware to make this possible. I may have dreamt that though.

Deft,
You're right, the ability of the D4 to do that is pretty useful. But I should point out, the Xone 464 has 6 AUX Sends, which can all be set pre or post-fader, pre or post-EQ. Plus its 2 stereo-bus design allows you to route two separate mixes, for if I want to make a recording without the mic.

I recently bought one, and I couldn't be happier. Oh wait, I could be happier, and I will be, just as soon as I install my new Pro X-Fade!

Although I do admit I've gone the expensive route, and not everyone out there will be able to afford to do the same. However, when you think about it, if you can afford the D4 with a Firewire expansion card, then you're already 3/4 of the way there!

Ya same question from me, will it replace the sound card for mixvibes, like the 57SSL will with Serato?

Is $999 the MSRP or around what the street price will be.

I wonder how much in £££....It's in the xone92 djm800 range (feature wise) and i reckon it will do well. The advantage of this over the xone 464 is this doesnt require a soundcard with several inputs to record multiple sources. Just a firewire input and you can have 4 similtanious tracks recorded.

On a negative note..the filter sections a little close to the xfader...which is odd as the fader is an infinium so they obviously think people will scratch with it.

I'm going to see it tomoro at plasa...il let you know my thoughts then.

The Mackie D.4 retails for what? $999 without its firewire option!!? And thats another $400 for the firewire?!

Geeze, might as well buy a Rane TTM 57SL.... sure.. if you had the d.4 you could spin with 4 decks with Mixvibes Pro 6 (another $299.99).. I think it all comes down to how much your willing to spend and what suits your needs...

Maybe.. one day.. Rane and SSL Dev team will come up with something to do with the MP24/44 mixer with SSL built into for use with 4 decks... Hmm.. here's hoping..

Can't wait to check this out at NAMM in Jan.

The only thing I can see wrong with it (so far) - the power switch is tucked away at the back at the bottom. If you have this thing installed or are using any S/R equipment, that power switch will be hard to get to.

The cost is decent at $1399 for the firewire+ option. Heck, the TTM57SL is $1450 and it's only 2 channel!

Well, Pulse.. The Rane TTM 57SL comes with DJ s/w. I was able to buy myself a Rane TTM 57SL for $1350.00... I only need 2 channels..

Pulse in all fairness to the Rane, you forgot to add the cost for MixVibes. That actually brings the d.4 total to around $1700.00 in comparison to the 57SL which comes bundled with SSL.

I'm pretty sure Mackie are intending to bundle a 'lite' version of Mixvibes with the Firewire card.

...but it's still only 2ch for that price.

Went plasa today. This mixer was the 1st thing i went to see...

I was very impressed with the d.2, smooth solid and i'll probably end up getting that.

The d.4 was great...too much for what i need but man it's SOLID and just smooth. All line faders felt the same...smooth. the xfader has to be felt, can't explain. The filters worked brilliantly. Earlier on i said the filter section was too close to the crossfader, the man on the mackie stand told me they have already moved the bottom half around a little bit so you have a bit more room. he tried to describe but i was watching the blue lights too much lol

I checked out the djm800 and xone 92 and the mackie was my favourite. Im a big allen and heath fan but the 92 doesnt feel right. It just doesnt seem logical, the ergonomics. Plus the faders feel substandard for the price your paying. As for the djm800...I hated the faders, Very stiff upfaders and a weird crossfader. No kills...

When it comes to sound i cannot judge as i only heard them through headphones and little speakers...but im sure the mackie will do very well.

Looks nice... i'd still rather have a 4 channel rane mixer. Day they make a 4 channel equivalent of the 57SSL I'll sell my other car and buy one...

Quality post MsM - confirmed a lot of my thoughts!

Looks very very good. One thing I don't like is the headphone connection on the front. This is not so good to put the D4 in a flightcase. If the price is around the Eur 1000,- I will buy it for sure. I also like the 2 mic. combo connections (very good).


On this moment I own the Numark 5000fx and the Pioneer DJM 800. But I think this mixer (D4) is the top.
I like the Numark for his price/quality, eff. and connections
I don't like the Pioneer I have. Mutch to expensive...
This one is for the not so smart DJ. Its for hire purose.
They only want to hire Pioneer. Hahaha

Yeh I agree the headphone socket on the front is a BAD idea! 4 channel mixers should all have it on the top, especially as they are meant for installation!

Personally I don't see this as much of an installation mixer, and considering it is rocking an Infinium fader they can definitely keep stupid headphone jacks away from the top panel!
Or, have sockets on both panels!

Having it on both top and bottom would be great. I want this mixer but i have no use for it lol...

I was thinking something else as well... According to Gizmo, they're trying to position this piece as a DJ and home production mixer. But if that's the case, how come it doesn't have any balanced inputs? When I think home production, I think being able to hook up synths, sound modules and samplers, all of which don't have RCA outs. Sure you could build cables to address that, but then you're foregoing the benefits of balanced connections.

I could even see the production value of a piece like this if it also functioned as a control surface - the 14x8 i/o soundcard with pre/post EQ switches is really powerful I'm sure, but that in itself doesn't necessarily convince me that it doubles as a home-production piece, without balanced inputs.

At least Mackie have been receptive thus far to the demands of us finicky DJs, maybe they'll pull something out from under their hats which will really make this piece a standout unit.

Louis, you'll be hard-pressed to find a DJ mixer with balanced-ins, there's only a couple out there with 1/4"-ins and I don't think they're even balanced.

If you want that kind of quality and control, other mixers are what you want. I can see the d.4 as a home-studio or club install. It certainly is trying to compete with the DJM-800, DN-X1500S and Xone92.

Hey y'all,

Johnb from mackie here. just got back to seattle from london and am psyched to read your comments.

I'll try to answer as many questions as i can before i pass out from jet lag again!!

**price - the price is not official. there is still much work to be done before i can be certain. the standalone mixer should be around $999 USD, the firewire package which will include the card, the tracktion recording software and some type of live scratch software with vinyl and CDs is intended to be under $400. anyway, the end goal is that the fully loaded package would be less than the rane 57. knowing that rane is so respected, we feel that the 4-ch mixer, the recording capabilities and lesser known live scratch package will be very intriguing and help mackie continue to build its rep with DJs

**for live scratch - the internal firewire card does replace the need for a audio interface like the rane 57, that was one of the starting premises of this mixer. mixVibes DVS is the first piece of software we have tested and it worked flawessly before and during the PLASA show. Plus, just one firewire cable and none of the other mess!
i am also very encouraged by their recent developments. plus their pro6 software looks pretty cool, too..

any live scratch software that does not require specific hardware should work. i am trying to get PCDJ to test with and i have heard rumors of another major player offering this feature. do you know of any other software outside of serato and final scratch that i should check out??

**also, the pre-EQ direct outs are specifically there for the live scatch application so you can get the timecode tone from the vinyl to the computer over firewire and return the audio to the the program channel by selecting firewire on the channel's input select switch.

**the stereo auxiliary send is like a traditional mixer with a knob per channel and a master send/return. should work great for just about any preferred outboard effects device.

the stereo aux also is available over firewire so you could route to something like reason and back to your mixer for computer based live effects.

**balanced vs. unbalanced inputs for production use. this is a very good observation and one i struggled with. in the end, it seemed more important to have traditional DJ interconnection to avoid hassles during performance applications. in the studio the gear will be witin a few meters where unbalanced connections are safe. balanced connections are primarily for maintaing quality over long distances to the differental inputs which negate unwanted signal that gets picked upwhen the long cable begins acting as an antenna. having both types of connectors per input would have made the unit even bigger. no thanks!

**recording - we kind of treated the d4 much like our onyx compact mixers offering every input channel as a seperate FW recording stream. that includes:
-ONYX mix pre #1
-ONYX mic pre#2
- PGM1 L/R
- PGM 2 L/R
- PGM 3 L/R
- PGM 4 L/R
- MAIN L/R
- AUX SEND L/R


so anyway, i'll check up on your comments for the next couple of weeks and provide any answers and updates. Overall, we feel it is a unique mixer and offers solutions to some DJs that were not currently available. certainly not the end of DJ mixers as we know them, but it is going to stretch the applications where a 4 channel mixer is used.

thx
jbou

The fact that all i need is the mixer with its firewire option to use mixvibes etc is whats got me sold. I got some time to save up now .....I just hope theres an option to include mixvibes etc for a lil discount

Hey DJ Pulse,

I'm not hard pressed to find it... It's in my studio right now, and it's a Xone 464.

Best of luck to Mackie on this one - they had better think very carefully of how it will need to be priced in order to compete. Everyone can learn a lesson from Urei on this one I think.

JohnB any idea on a UK release date - when will the specs/final pics be launched? Thanks

Hi All,

About MixVibes and Mackie D2 compatibility... I had the chance to test the DVS version with a D2 Mackie on the Mackie stand at PLASA. I worked beautifully. It's great to see that hardware and software manufacturers can develop products that run so smoothly together. The integrtaed firewire sounddevice makes the whole system much easier to plug in and ensures a great latency for real time feel. This table is dope period.

I'm defenitely thinking of purchasing the D2 to operate my MIXVIBES PRO. Hopefully it will be available for Xmas.

Can i use a d2 with firewire and mixvibes and NOT need a specific soundcard?

Hi All,

About MixVibes and Mackie D2 compatibility... I had the chance to test the DVS version with a D2 Mackie on the Mackie stand at PLASA. I worked beautifully. It's great to see that hardware and software manufacturers can develop products that run so smoothly together. The integrtaed firewire sounddevice makes the whole system much easier to plug in and ensures a great latency for real time feel. This table is dope period.

I'm defenitely thinking of purchasing the D2 to operate my MIXVIBES PRO. Hopefully it will be available for Xmas.

Why cant i see anything after 41 posts? whaaaaaaats going on

Hey sounds good !

I have already seen that the D2 is sold with MixVibes 6 3DEX Edition.

Now, it is very interesting to plug directly the turntable into the Firewire soundcard. Would it be possible to have the sampler of MixVibes PRO 6 linked to one of the channel ?

Hi All,

About MixVibes and Mackie D2 compatibility... I had the chance to test the DVS version with a D2 Mackie on the Mackie stand at PLASA. I worked beautifully. It's great to see that hardware and software manufacturers can develop products that run so smoothly together. The integrtaed firewire sounddevice makes the whole system much easier to plug in and ensures a great latency for real time feel. This table is dope period.

I'm defenitely thinking of purchasing the D2 to operate my MIXVIBES PRO. Hopefully it will be available for Xmas.

Sorry people - temporary glitch. :embarrest All is working now.

@Paul,
Hmmm, I might consider getting Mixvibes DVS. How would you compare the latency to Rane's SSL/ TTM-57? I was an early adopter of the d.2 and firewire card when it first came out packed with Tracktion2. I wish it had come bundled w/ DVS too!

yeah sorry about the triple comment ! I thought my post would never come through !

MsM: you won't need to invest in another sound device with the D.2. The latency performances are great thanx to Firewire .

tape : sure you can send your loops into another channel of the mixer (with the sampler) in the same conditions as with a traditional configuration : ext soundcard + mixer.

P-ter : the latency can go down to 1bms with top sound cards. This makes a real difference for scratchers and that's why the top scratchers and DMC winners all use Mixvibes (Troubl, C2C, Netik, etc...). I have benchmarked Serato and find that alltogether the main difference comes from the sound quality more than the latency (i only beat match though). As far as my experience with the D2 goes it felt just like real time.

cheers
paul

Can the D2 do full vinyl control now? Because I thought it only had one stereo 'master' feed to the PC, no pre-fader outs for vinyl control? Though I am convinced that someone told me they were changing the firmware of the expansion card to allow it.

apparently so. I didn't check the the set up @ the stand because it worked fine. i was spinning with 2 mkIIs and the D2 mixer !

Im sold....d2 it is. Its beaten the 56 in my eyes...(what on earth are mackie doin to me)

My finger has healed nicely....

Louis - right, but how many others can you name?

ummm. john at mackie again.

the currently available d.2 & FW card will not operate with DVS. you will need to wait til' jan '07 for d.2 pro and the d.4 pro. new FW card called d.pro FW card. this new line has all of the necessary routing to make it happen smooth like at the PLASA show.

John does Mackie have a confirmed UK release date?

So theres s a NEW d2? im confused. or is it a new firewire card? will it cost more?

Darn, guess we'll have to wait 'til sometime next year '07 to actually see how well the d.2 mixer works w/ Mixvibes DVS. In the meantime, I'll settle w/ the TTM-57SL

Personally I'm still going to go with Serato - mixvibes doesn't interest me. However a solid, reliable, feature packed mixer is something that certainly does.

Mackie - my moneys on the table, don't let us down!

Hey y'all,

release date will be global on 2/1/2007 assuming we don't have any trouble as we finish up the design efforts and manufacturing ramp up.

Pricing will not be released until late this year as we are still working on it. You'll be pleasantly surprised i'm sure!

The new firewire card will not be useable on the original d.2 so the d.2 is getting an upgrade. Hop to launch all products together. If yu want to use a d.2 with mixvibes or other software for live scratch applications you'll have to wait the current d.2 and firewire card do es not have the correct amount of I/O to get it done.

j

WOW - great release date - please oh please just make sure its the finished article. I'd hate to see something rushed to market only then to flunk as it wasn't finished properly.

Counting on you guys...

Wow the DJ hardware world is changing so much. I have the money but am afraid to buy anything because of all the new stuff coming out. Everything is just wow ... Gonna wait till NAMM

I think these 2 have so much potential. Pricing is the key though...the d2 has to be able to compete with the ttm56 even if the d2 can run mixvibes.

The d4 is way above what i need....looks very good though. Is the new d2 going to replace the current one? or will there be both...normal and pro?

I hope that Mackie simply updates the firmware on the d.series Firewire card for the d.2 or else I'm going to have to buy the new one next year!

P-Ter, it sounds like it's a new firewire card AND new D2 - so unfortunately that means current owners would need to upgrade both their mixer and card (J-Bou can correct me if I'm wrong).

Actually, reading it does sound more like just a new d.Pro Firewire card for the existing d.2? Or is there a d.2 Pro mixer coming too.

Auggghhh! Please let me know now about the new d.2 mixer/d.Pro Firewire card. The suspense is killing me!

Read it again deft
"The new firewire card will not be useable on the original d.2 so the d.2 is getting an upgrade. Hop to launch all products together. If yu want to use a d.2 with mixvibes or other software for live scratch applications you'll have to wait the current d.2 and firewire card do es not have the correct amount of I/O to get it done."

I am so glad i didnt rush into buying a d2. Theres a new 1 on the horizon

Yeah I think the comment earlier confirms it as well....
"the currently available d.2 & FW card will not operate with DVS. you will need to wait til' jan '07 for d.2 pro and the d.4 pro".

Maybe we will see some cut price D2 mixers come January to make way for the D2.Pro?

Any chance of mappable MIDI control for apps like Abelton Live and the upcoming Torq???

I had a few things to ask about this unit. I have Downloaded a demo version of MixVibes Pro. My Computer is a Intel P4 3.2Ghz 1meg cash. When I was mixing 4 channles my computer was hitting 80% and higher. Some times while I was messing with 4 it peaked out at 100% then the music started to jump. However this could be because I am useing my internal sound card witch is not an ASIO at all. I geuss the prossesor is being use since the Soundcard does do the work.
As I was reading this uses FireWire to direcly connect to the mixer. Does the mixer have it's own prossor, so the PC wont be crocking up when I mix 4 channles?

Other thing is I own (2)DN-S5000 and (2)DN-S3500 for my mixing. Witch they all have "Hot Starts/Looping". There is time-codeing as I ben reading. What I wonder is will it be fast when I hit this butten to go where I cue my song up? Reason why I ask is because I do house mixing, intros for song while mixing in and such. For my DN-S5000, mix so hard with it that the thing some times jumps, because I use all 4 of my Hot Starts and scrach while moveing the 100% pitch controler. Trust me I made the thing to retarted. So how good is the time-codeing on the mixer when I do all this?

Another butten on my CD-players is "Key Adjust" witch makes the muic sound normal speed even when the pitch is changed. Will the mixer relize this is happening so make this ajustment?

On my DN-35000 there are some Effects like Echo, Flanger, and Filter for EQ. Has a wet and dry nob. Will the mixer work with this also?

Some of us house mixer has a Pitch Bend contoler. This might inclue the timecodeing. for beat-matching songs together and keeping them sinc. Does it work?

This might seem silly. The DN-S5000 has (2) samplers built in. I dought this would work, but can they still work?

The biggest one is how much CPU usage does this mixer suck mixing 4 channles whith all of them being toyed with of how I mix?

I'll try and answer some of your questions Lord Icon:

It would be easier to judge CPU usage once you have a soundcard that offers stable low latency use with an ASIO driver. CPU use does go up as you lower the ASIO buffer size, because the CPU has to fetch data more times per second the lower you have it. But you obviously need a reasonably small buffer size for vinyl emulation because otherwise the latency becomes to high for scratching (I found it needed to be preferably lower than 256 samples at 44.1kHz sample rate). Mixing is not as crucial EXCEPT in the cases you describe - where you are using hot starts and looping etc.
With all these systems there is a latency from when the software receives the timecode to when it outputs the audio back to your mixer. The smaller this latency (mostly related to ASIO buffer size but also software processing time), the less you will notice it. At best you are looking at about 8-15ms delay from when you manipulate the timecode to when you get the audio back. I've not used looping facilities on a cd player with Serato or Mixvibes, but I guess this could cause slight extra glitches. These softwares tend to have looping and cueing facilities built in which might be a better option if it is too troublesome.

Key adjust and other effects will generally not work when using timecode, as they will alter the timecode stream before it gets to the PC to be manipulated - hence you will just be sending it distorted / messy timecode and it will get confused.
Anything that doesn't alter the physical nature of the timecode should be o.k.

How well Mixvibes performs with the bundled D.Pro firewire card will be most impacted by how well Mackie write the drivers for it. The fact it is Firewire means it has decent bandwidth, but doesn't mean it gains any real advantages in terms of latency.

The d.2 been out less than a year and a new one is already on the horizon. I'm pissed because it seems Mackie is pulling a Pioneer and screwing the current loyal d.2 owners. New mixer and new firewire card and it's not backwards compatible. Next time at least allow me to bend over Mackie.

The Mackie D2 is still an excellent mixer from what i've experienced - its not as if you got a crap deal, but unfortunately there's always something that'll be a slight step up!

Too bad the old Mackie d.2 won't be comptabible with the new d.2pro Firewire card. Looks like some of us might have to upgrade to the new d.2 Pro mixer next year lol!

Well Hi I am from Mexico City and I must face a... diferent problem than urs lets say.
Fisrt as SD & SpAzZ said, the d.2 is a very new product actually there isnt any place (store, dealer -authorized or not-, Dj´s community, etc.) where u can find it here in my country. Everybody here consider the d.2 as impossible and unimaginable when i asked for it in stores. Even Mackie "authorized dealers" that appear on the Web Page, gave me by crazy.
http://www.mackie.com/products/home/locator/worldwide_distributors.html Look for Hermes Audio CRAP
So... I had to order it in samash.com and pay a lot of taxes, fees and damed shipings.
But it was worth the trouble, i wont complain any more, cause i feel its a great mixer, i love his FireWire card and all the functions... but what´s up now???
This new product is better than mine and of course i want it, but i definitively wont do the same cost i´ve done the last month. I dont have enough money and less desire.
So... while Mackie doesnt aproach us his VERY NEW "FrEsH FiSh", it will be almost impossible to get it and because of that they are loosing a big market for bussines. I suggest solve this problem by the good of all.
While that happens i will back to the Pioneer DJM series, i´ve heard that the 800 is a Big Boy.
Thanx and just enjoy this new mixer, its great... you who you can.
MSN Contact: bass_farid@hotmail.com

unfortunately, it will be a new d.2 pro, new d pro firewire card, and the d.4 pro as a happy little family.

i know putting out a new d.2 less than 2 years after the first one shipped sorta sucks and is not what we wanted to do.

But.... the advancements in firewire chips made it hard to resist. the new chips we can get, can do so much more for the same cost. it would be as bad to bring out a d.4 and new card with these advancements and do nothing to the d.2. we have to align the products, me thinks.

anyway, i'm working on an upgrade path for original d.2s that won't break the bank. we will do everything possible not to screw this up.
there will be more detailed info by december. i'll keep checkin this forum for rants and raves

thanks for the comments and no worries on you Rane supporters. good stuff comin out of mulkilteo, washington. they are about 30 minutes from mackie and always been a favorite of mine, too..

jbou

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"anyway, i'm working on an upgrade path for original d.2s that won't break the bank. we will do everything possible not to screw this up.
there will be more detailed info by december. i'll keep checkin this forum for rants and raves"

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j-bou the statement above sounds very promising. I hope you all can make something (anything) happen for the first d.2 owners. So many times companies pull stunts like this and totally d!ck the current owners. Sorry for the harshness and thanks for your quick and professional response.

Mackie could put themselves right next to Rane and the top guys if they do this right....I will 100% get the new d2 IF the price is right.

I will 100% get a new D4 if they get it right.

The effects send return has GOT to be implemented well. I hope they don't make it an after thought. We want full wet dry control on all the channels, mics etc

Its looking so promising I just don't want it to come out and be a let down!

Haven't heard anything on this for quite a while - any news?

ya I am waitting to. I realy want to know the lancey time on the mixer. I was reading for MixVibes an ASIO sound card can be 1.5ms but I want to know how fast will this mixer be for each channle all of them at the same time.

Do a search on google for Mackie D.4 - they've recently put a press release up going over the details - all looking official now!

I'm wondering if the new version of the fire wire card will work seemless together with Numark's srcatch software.

I'm holding out for this still along with the Korg Kaoss Pad 3 - can't wait for reviews of that to start coming out!

Interesting point I thought of regarding the new D.4 Pre Post EQ buttons.

I noted in J Bou explanation for this that the buttons are intended to allow the user to send signals be it sound or timecode into the computer and back.

I can see a point arising when you want to do both in a set. You might want to preserve the original signal and send to a KP3 or be able to use the volume slider to cut an effeted signal etc.

How do Mackie propose that we do this if the buttons are onthe back panel?

Having said that, I am already putting the cash on one side, this thing rocks!

John the Horn

I hope Mackie keep updating the PR on this one - I too am very interested to hear where it is and would love some updated pics/specs on their website!

Does anyone know about the cross fader curve adjustments. The adjustments on the d.2 are on the front but there is no front view on the new d.4. Also what about the channel fader curve adjustments?

If anyone is after a D2 in the UK, I picked one up for £199! Decks.co.uk have that price, although I got mine from the Music Live Show at the NEC on the 3,4 November from the Mackie stand.

So if Mackie does create a Firewire upgrade for the (old) D2, it'll be more in line with the forthcoming D2 Pro, therefore getting a £199 D2 and an upgraded Firewire card wouldn't be that expensive.

Happy Days!

Never mind about the cross fader, I see that now. But what about the channel faders?

I'm very worried Mackie aren't going to implement the send returns effectively. I want to be able to fully use an EFX1000, and at the moment it doesnt look promising. That would lose my sale i think...

I do hope Mackie are still checking this thread - i'm personally considering purchasing a Denon or Pioneer as I haven't heard any more about the D.4

I hope so too. I found out today that Mackie only sold a few D2's. Are we all mad? that was a cracking mixer which I would have bought if I didn't need more channels. Perhaps people don't 'get' the fire wire option.

Everyone seems to crave a xone or DJM, perhaps they don't equate mackie with quality in the DJ world, but these things seem to be right up there with the best.

great thread, i'm itching to have a go on one of these.
i'm pretty impatient though and i was pleased with the ecler when i had a go. any more news on the due date?
also, i've sunk my kit into work-top, so some info on dimensions would be pretty helpful to see if i'm going to have to get my tools out again. anyone know the size of these things?

I wanna know more about this d2 PRO in terms of what improvements they might have made.

Found out that this mixer is going to be 1 grand. It comes with software so I heard of. MixVibes just came out with there DVS PRO witch supports up to 4 channles witch I take it comes with the mixer. I am not sure if that is ture that it comes with the DVS PRO since the DVS PRO comes with 2 HDcd's and 5 vinly witch on there site it shows for $300. Does any one know if the Mackie D.4 comes with this MixVibes DVS Pro???????? I e-mailed MixVibes about there program with the D.4 and it happens that it has the lowest lanceny time for emulasion witch is less then 1ms. FS2 has 8ms and Rane gots 5ms.

Hopefully mackie make the D2 pro with a line input with a select switch on the mic input channel.

OK, so it's early 2007 now. When's this thing coming out then? Those Eclers are looking mighty tempting...

A grand huh? Hmmmmm well what if I don't want that firewire thingy?

Are we going to get a press release, any more info at this Winters NAMM show - feel somewhat left in the dark here!

I'll be talking with Mackie later today.

Brilliant Giz, hopefully find out some more about whats going on!

According to DJ magazine it should be launched on the 20th of January. So during NAMM then pretty much!

geuss time for me to trade in my DENON DN-X1500. realy want this mixer.

Wow Im due up for a new mixer and these have the specs I wanted and even more...been looking at A&H Xone 262 and Urei 1605, Hopefully the Mackie D.4 will be in the same price range..$1000 please!!!!

What do you know gizmo, you said that you where going to talk to mackie on the 11th

I mailed them and got no response. I'll see if my reporters at NAMM got any more info.

The suspense is killing me

Gizmo rocks. ummm I geuss try to get one of them to come back to the site here. Got tons of things to ask since I am realy thinking of tradeing my DN-X1500

Just read the spec on the new korg firewire mixers. Definitely worth a look, though think I'll hold out until I hear the sound quality and check the build first, korg do tend to be a bit toyish. At least it's available now though. Anyone road-tested these yet?

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They're actually not available until May mate.

i stand corrected. they look cool, though.

Does anyone know the true demensions on this unit ??? Is it a 12" mixer ? How heavy is it ehhh.

I hope its a 12 inch mixer....that way it would fix in my case.

Me too I would hate it if I had to buy a new road case and coffin , But ya gotta do what ya gotta do This mixer is the shit !!

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Hopefully mackie make the D2 pro with a line input with a select switch on the mic input channel.
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I agree, that option would make the D2 & D4 a true audio interface. I would like to plug in my guitar or keyboard and be able to record from it. If the D4 has that option, it would meet all my needs.

Just received my Firewire card for the D:2. Been waiting all this time and when I get on this site to see if I can find connectivity diagrams…. I find out there is a new D:2 !!!!!! Not happy. Sorry Mackie but this doesn’t bode well. I wasn’t impressed when I heard that Infinium was releasing an upgraded xfader only months after the release of the D:2. So this is another nail in the coffin.

Can anyone tell me if the copy of Mixvibes Pro Edition 6 (which I got with the card) will run on OSX 10.3.5? The mixvibes website doesn’t mention Mac compatibility. I also received a copy of Tracktion v2.1 for anyone that is interested (which I know is Mac friendly).

I’m also very confused about which software will actually run on the original D:2., the reason I bought it was to run Serato Scratch (next on the purchase list) which my original investigations proved that I would not have any issues.

Can someone please confirm?

Thanks all

Mixvibes doesn't have a Mac version right now. Later this year, but like with any first version, might not be 100% stable from the start. I for one am looking forward to that.

Serato will run on any mixer, but not through Firewire. That's what the USB SSL interface is for.

That's a joke!

The review I read of the D.2 said it would run Serato:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACDFWCARD
"The d.2 is the world's first mixer with an optional FireWire computer connection. With the FireWire card installed, you can connect the d.2 mixer to any Mac or PC (Mac OSX 10.3.5 and higher, Windows XP) to directly play back music from almost any music software application?including Traktor, Serato, Live, iTunes, and Windows Media Player. You just set the Input Select switch at the top of either or both channels to "FireWire," and mix two stereo tracks directly from your computer."


And if that isn't enough.....

I got home last night with my new firewire card, plugged it in carefully following the insutructions, zero'd all the rotary's and faders, connected it to my Powerbook G4 (osx 10.3.5), flicked the firewire switch and then my PB crashed for the first time in 4 years. and then again... and then again.

Not only this... but the disk I got with Tracktion and Mixvibes was blank (checked on both XP and OSX). and for those wondering, it said on the disk: XP or OSX 10.3.5 or higher.

Short of coming with a dose of H5N1, it couldn't get any worse.

Mackie!!! WTF??????

Right then,

I've been in touch with Mackie UK Tech Support and they don't seem to have a clue. They have actually asked ME to keep THEM posted with the developments of this. and instructed me to go back to my retailer (which I can't do till the weekend) and test other systems.

I was looking forward to spending a nice, quiet, romantic evening in with my d.2 on Valentines only to find out that I am begining to have the same views on this piece of kit as I do with some of my ex's.

If anyone is sucessfully running the firewire option with OSX (or even XP) please post a comment.

Thanx

I've been running the optional firewire card for over a year with no problems. As far as mixing directly with serato or mixvibes you can but you will have to use your keyboard or some other midi device to control the tracks on your computer. The new D.2 pro and D.4 will be able to work directly with Mix Vibes to control your mp3's with time coded vinyl.

John,

Any word on the release date? I already have a Mackie Onyx 1620 and love it to death...

And as for software to try it with - Try M-Audio's Torq. I'm willing to bet money that the new d.4 and d.2 pro kick butt with that software. To be honest, hooking up the new d.4 and rocking Torq is going to be the first thing I do with it!

And one last thing? Any word on the release date and pricing? yea, and pricing.... Got someone here just waiting for it to show so I can buy one!

March is almost gone...wheres the D.4 ?!??! I cant wait !

WHY ISN'T MACKIE TELLING US ANYTHING?

For real! I can't wait any longer! Release date? PLEAS!!!!

I promise that I'll get an update at MusikMesse, even if I have to beat someone with a d4.

I still got alot of things I wanted to know. I have posted them ealyer on this page here. If the guy every comes hope he has 5 hrs to read ever ones besides what I got to ask.

Ok MusikMesse is over... what's da juice.. then again did you find a d4 to beat them over the head with?

hi c trooooooooop coooooooooool

No D.4 still, can't help think Mackie are seriously missing the boat here with the oncoming Zero's, Evo's, Vestax and who knows what else. Perhaps its becausing they're improving certain minor things. Who knows. I personally would still love it to come out. A cheap no frills, 4 channel scratch mixer with great external effects routing and the bonus of good filters would be a winner in my books.

if i can't get one by middle of may i'll be forced to buy something else.. come on mackie... yes mackie have lots in stock when its offered

Yup, same. The D.4 looks to be the most suited mixer for my needs, but with no idea when it's coming, I'm not going to be leaving such a vital hole in my set-up much longer. End of the month and I'm looking elsewhere.

And in todays news... I have fresh pictures and an official release from Mackie. News story coming people - with release dates and prices. Check back in a couple of hours for a fresh story.

release dates?!?!?! you mean they're going to stagger release them... oh mackie...

waits patiently on news story

Dude - you posted this AFTER I posted the fresh news story. Go check the latest news for more info.

Yea sorry.. didn't hit refresh hard enough.. sorry :(