The more i see them the more i want a pair. Great idea with the spindle for the controll, i never thought about just doing it like that, it makes things so simple.
ahhh maaayyn
awesomeee! Yeah the spindle idea seems pretty simple and effective
It is also one of the hottest units I've ever seen. I really like it!
As far as battle style, there are ways around the cd slot being on the side. For bedroom DJs, sitting the decks slightly higher than the mixer will allow you to go battle style. For Pro DJs, a modified coffin should do the trick.
Giz - Does it play MP3's? I'm sure the ans is yes, but need to definitely know this.
Yes it does play MP3's.
So let me get this straight.. is the record like time coded vinyl? Does it wear? And how to replace?
Do u put your own cartridges? (if indeed the record is to control the cd)
The supplied record is a controller for the CD - just like the CDX. It's slots onto the spindles and controls the CD. But it also doubles as regular vinyl as well if you want it to. It will come premade with some battle stuff on it. But to use your own vinyl, take off the supplied vinyl, switch to vinyl mode and that's it. The carts are your own Shures, Ortofons - whatever. They have no effect on CD playback at all. You don't need to engage the tonearm when using CD mode.
Does that clear it up?
U mean cds and serato????
Wow, when is it released????? (and some more ??????? (question marks) for good measure!
hmm any hint about how pricey will it be? :cry:
Imagine it had to outputs for cd and vinyl use.. then it would be perfect for the 57...
when you say lefty, do you mean you cut with your left hand on the fader?
i really want this thing, but I have this habit of always suspecting Numark reliability.
I think I saw $999 as suggested list somewhere...
and Giz, what about slip mats??
wow it looks sooo awesome.... must be a really great deck
$999 - djdeals
didnt they say the 57 should be 999 aswell
Maybe if you buy now they are bound by contract!
they are bound to have a disclaimer on the site soimewhere saying they can change the price and have to let you know before shipping. I have seen people try the quick one a few times like that, it does not work
Giz, one more question, does it come with the blue record, and are other colours optional?
and release date (?) yo...
sorry, but this thing has hardware failure written all over it.
i hope thats not a final model, them not going with a battle design is week considering thats what they been going for for the past few years, whateva id still rather have the hard drive ones i think, unless they mix all 3, NAMM next year maybe who knows
How does the ttx fair in terms of reliability???
I use 2 TTXs....they kick ass. using them for 3 years now...no probs.
They're up there with Tech12s and Vestax 2Ks.
another alternative would be Numark TT500...a TTX without the LED screen/ Digi/tempo features.
DAWN, NOW I AM HAVING HARD TIME CHOSE THE GEMINI CDT-O5 AND THE NEW NUMARK CDX!!!!!HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHICH IS BETTER AND WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Nice!I want to buy X2! ^_^
BTW,I'm a Japanese scratching DJ.
muaythaiman - sounds thai
When the CDX first came out, Reezy annoyed everyone with this idea for months. First as a mod, which was debunked pretty quickly, and then on some 'Wait for the CDX2!!!' ish.
You totally told us so, Mike!
Numark's quality has always been a notch above Gemini...IMO
And I would suspect they learned a great lesson from the initial
problems of the CDX. I think this hybrid unit and the HDX will be
a lot more reliable. Time will tell though (I could be wrong).
I figure this and serato is pretty (very) senseless. Would you use the serato control CDs or control vinyl? Stupid to use both....
With the 57 you can record either vinyl or cd to comp -- then put it in itunes, and use in serato.
So if you have either and u want to use, u can get it to comp using serato recording. So the need for both is very redundant... seeing u don't need two mediums to play your comp track. Maybe in a fit of different moods??
What I mean is, with serato, some people will always use the tone arm, making the cd slot useless; and with others, they will use the cd functioning platter, making the tone arm collect serious dust. All files will be on your comp. So why the need for both tone arm and cd?
Unless of course you are too lazy to record your precious vinyl to comp, and you don't mind it eventually wearing out..
Click I think the initial concept of these hybrids was not to accomodate SSL. It was actually made for those hardcore DJs who are still using vinyl and just don't want to give it up (even for SSL). I myself use SSL, but I also still use vinyl and CDs. This unit basically gives a DJ flexability to go any route he chooses to go. If you're going to be primarily dedicated to using SSL, than you're correct, it would be senseless to have this deck. But all DJs don't think alike. Many DJs have a t/t setup and a CDTT setup. This allows you to streamline in to one setup. The downfall to that though is if something happens to this deck, you're down for both your vinyl and CDs while it's getting repaired (I always used a dualie as my backup for any gig I do).
Actually after thinking on this some more, if you have SSL and it's the primary source for your music and you also use some vinyl as the secondary, then this deck makes more sense. And it allows you to set this up in battle position. With SSL, you would use the cd slots (one time) to load the timecoded cds and basically leave them in. The thrus on the SSL box will allow you to go from SSL to vinyl very easy. Since the bulk of your music will be played on SSL (via timecoded cds), you increase the life of your needles.
SpAzZ (cool name), you know your really right - your onto something here... but then, couldn't you just record (with SSL recording) your vinyl to your comp and lock up the precious master copy in a vault for your grand kids?
good point SpAzZ.
my first concern is about too much torque...
too much torque is a pain when beat mixing manipulating the platter (rubbing the edge, you know). i found my vestax pdx bad for beat mixing compared with technics because of this.
the more they can match the 1200 touch feeling, the better...
adjustable torque is a must, IMHO.
cdj 1000s are still king!
Click - I know where you are coming from but there are a lot of old school DJs (myself included) who will always love the feel and sound of vinyl records. I just think Numark is catering to that sector of the DJ world. They are basically trying to offer something to all DJ segments. So you're right, it wouldn't make since to every DJ but some it do. I have 2 TT500s and 2 CDXs (using with SSL). This unit eliminates both decks for me. I will give it til the end of this year to see what people are saying, but this might be a worthwhile purchase for me.
Is it just me or are numark the shit right now?
Semms like they covering all bases, cd, vinyl and video. Hell, didnt they just buy Akai MPC aswell?
Theyre only miss a serato and qfo of their own now and world domination is at hand ^_^
so SpAzZ, if you were to use it with serato,when switching back and forth from vinyl to cd, you would have to take the vinyl and you slip mat off, then put the control platter back on?
That's right Click, although I think you can keep the slip mat on. It's just the vinyl that's being changed (which you do anyway when you change records). ^_^
If you look closely at the pic above, you can see the Numark slipmat up under the blue control record. The silver central adapter is attached to the control vinyl and not to the platter like the CDX, so you can freely take it off or put it on as you would a normal 12".
This offere more than the cdjs1000s at a seemingly bettr price... (but what about numark reliability?)
the only thing different betwen this numark hybrid thing, wioth the gemini stuff.... its that numark looks better....
You know, I was almost about to make the commitment and buy this thing, as a compliment to the new 57 (when it comes)... but then I realized (personal opinion) that for me it is senseless. Just get a ttx and record your wax through SSL to your comp, and then play back from you SSL control records...
SpAzZ, your right, it is for the hybrid DJ that can use both cd and battle tools, but to use with the 57, to me it just don't make sense..
^^
Unless you have the 'older' SSL..
Nah nah, I got the table of tables even tho this is a joke..lol
Hybrid Controller 1/CDX in a QFO case with built in 57ssl
+ a drink cup on the side...
seems realy stupid of numark to include battle cuts on the control record and not have the cd drive on the left side.
How i would do it is have two bays like a computer has for its drives. Put one on the front and one on the left side. Use a screw driver to take the drive out and switch it to battle position or vice versa. It would of corse have an extra conector in each bay. Might make the cost of production cost numark mabey 50 bucks more but you'd be able to market it to both dj scenes.
I still don't get people who want a cd table and scratch live.
i can tag that bet reezy
i got a "RFO" a.k.a controller 2 prototype (ricci's own qfo) which has in built wah wah and delay/chorus, signed by ricci, with ricci's picture on it.
it also has a dvd capability with a drop down preview screen and built in light projector which can create lazer shows with the cuts or simply play music videos, and even music videos BACKWARDS.
on top of that it comes with a fully kitted out stand, complete with topless model, gold plated instruction manual and keyring immobiliser to stop wack mother fuckers from stepping to the plate.
also it has a pro x version 2 (with the laser guided adjusters)
so there
i got everything that 2teezy has plus one.
NOW THATS WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKIN ABOUT!!!
I bet that with the RFO-MK2 you'll get a live-size ricci in the box as well.
Lazer show with cuts when scracthing!?!?!?
(I need to find a patent shop!!
Yo Giz, any news on the pro x fader, I'm still waitin for the U.S. to get distro on those faders.
Hope it has good quality.........The year of the Hybrids is upon us....Hahahahaha
:blink:
jeah man now thats dope!!! no doubt will check em out and give them the old scratch thrashing in our local DMC store.
Peace. DJ Poroufessor
Turn Tepu Toa DJ CREW
Auckland
NEW ZEALAND
the cd slot position is so silly....what's the point ? yet they still have the 2 start/stop buttons ...
Like it has been said..unless you scratch with left hand on fader (and have enuff space to open the slot)....you majority scratch dj are screwed.
Damn me too.
But the concept is great.
Well the thing is that if it were in battle position, then the slot would be just as inaccessable if you had your decks set up 'regular'. So basically they would have had to choose one, and since mix DJs are 90% of the market and like their decks regular it wouldn't have been a difficult choice.
Some kind of modular swappable system would have been a good way to cater to both markets though.
During the NAMM show I had time to go over to the Gemini booth to see the concept of the turntable and vinyl in action. The DJ Chris Garcia was doing some crazy s--t scratching vinyl over the CD music on the same player!
You grab lightly just to scratch the vinyl on top. You grab hard to scratch both. Man that's sick! You can even get a full scratch on the vinyl with some weird semi-scratch on the vinyl. Even more sick!
"semi-scratch on the vinyl" -> "semi-scratch on the CD"
great another piece of kit that will cost 700 million pounds when it comes out
I had a go on both the Numark piece and the Gemini Hybrid...in all honesty, I liked the Gemini piece..it wasn't that bad...besides having the "Gemini" brand on it, I couldn't really find any fault..well maybe 1, it was tooooo thick and bulky...but I was told that it will come with thing isolated feet so that it will be the same height as a regular 1200....I would def like to have both the numark and gemini piece side by side to do an A/B comparison...
as for the price of the gemini...$799MAP ain't that bad....
by SORA
quote:
"the cd slot position is so silly....what's the point ? yet they still have the 2 start/stop buttons ...
Like it has been said..unless you scratch with left hand on fader (and have enuff space to open the slot)....you majority scratch dj are screwed."
if you use one of these...then it might not be so bad...it would be a pain to twist and turn to switch from battle to mix positions..
Imagine to beatjuggle on that "dj table". All the gear goes red after 1 session.
just for a reference, the place gemini and numark make there tables are the same factory, so in all liklihood these are the same turntables....
Pretty sure thats not the case, there are definitely a few large brands being produced in the same factories but Numark/Gemini is not one of them.
The Numark piece looks pretty, but if you really examine the feature set side by side, you'll see that the CDT-05 has capabilities that this doesn't.
Numark needed to be smart and make sure if they were going to take Gemini's idea, that they needed to make it truly better than Gemini's piece, and not just "another version."
I'm curious to know what the MAP price on this baby is. If its more expensive than the CDT-05, you already know what the better purchasing choice is.
Numark also have the popularity of their TTX and CDX behind this product, whereas Gemini haven't really put out anything amazing in a few years (except possibly the iKey). It really comes down to whichever one is more usable in a practical sense.
Feature wise it's too early to say which one is the best,I'll guess we'll just have to wait and put them up side by side and check it out(I'll put up a video of this as soon as I get my hands on them)
But to me the Gemini CDT-05 is plain ol'ugly while the Numark X2 is the prettiest piece of gear I've seen them put out in a long time...
just my 2 cents...
my friend just sent this link...
why would i play/practice on these at home, when i go to the club and play on CDJ-1000s... EVERYWHERE.
Hey, these things make sense in a club scene, it'll allow for both CD and TT setups in the same space (some of those DJ booths are pretty small).
hey Gizmo... no video for this beauty?
For the people complaining about SSL yada-yada, did you ever consider giving a fuck about the rest of the world?
That kind of ignorance is stupid, just cause the US has a liberal ruleset for this doesn't mean everyone else does.
In the UK you have to pay 3200$ to use a gimped version of SSL, and here in Denmark it's straight out illegal, no matter what.
Soba- your wrong. The numark tables and gemini tables are made in the same factory, I know this for a fact.
did someone just steal Soba's nick??
Or are you having a conversation with yourself? wtf?
hehe... ^_^
Whatsup,
I've been spin'n for a while, some 9 years, and I have always been pleased with numark's performance to price ratio. Since the TTX came out I feel like the performance bar has been reset by numark (when it comes to table technology). Tech's been ripping people off for years with rewrapping the same thing, (trust me there is no real equitable difference between any of there later modles.)
Oh as far as numark and gemini tables being made in the same factory.... I believe it, that shit is contracted out to other companies. They give them the blueprint and the contractor builds it for a quoted price. THE TABLES ARE DIFFERENT!!! the motors, the transister and all. I have seen three set's of gemini tables take a noise dive, I have yet to see my old belt driven 1600 Numarks (they are OLD) that I gave to a kid to learn fail.
I respect all types of DJ PC, CD, and Vynil. For me I use them all. That makes this an excellent idea (x2). My only advice to anyone buying brand new technology is Try it before you buy it.
Release date September 2006 (they are known to push back release dates on some things)
I thank everyone for your opinions, it all had great value to me.
Keep Spin'n
Betaboy
EVERYONE SHOULD STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THE NUMARKS AS POSSIBLE. I'M NOT SAYING THE GEMINI'S ARE ANY BETTER BUT I HAVE HAD 3 CDX'S AND ALL WENT TO SHIT. NUMARKS TECH SUPPORT HAS BEEN NO HELP. I TRULLY SUGGEST EVERYONE STAY AWAY FROM ANY OF THERE CD TABLES UNTIL THEY AKNOWLEDGE AND TRY TO REBATE OR RECALL THESE PIECE OF SHIT TABLES
DAWN, NOW I AM HAVING HARD TIME CHOSE THE GEMINI CDT-O5 AND THE NEW NUMARK CDX!!!!!HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHICH IS BETTER AND WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !
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